Bail update - Paperwork guy got here at 3, took about 10 min to fill out the paperwork, he took it to the jail, hopefully got the bro out of the pokey. (Supposedly it can take up to 10 hours for him to be slotted out?)He's to come here after he's out, to fill out and get information to send them. I called his Cell phone, and wouldn'tcha know it, Andy answered it... that tells me that they were together when bro was arrested. If I had known that, I'd have thought twice about letting him out. What it boils down to is that the bond cost $100, plus $1000 in collateral (basically I transferred $1100 to them, and when he goes to court, I get $1k back. If he's an idiot, and decides to skip out on his court date, I'm responsible for cost incurred in finding him, and taking him back to jail. He'd be a fool to skip out because it's a major charge vs his current situation. He's another "professional victim". Nothing is ever his fault, just bad luck or mean people. It's never "ok, I admit it, I screwed up, and was wrong" unless he's pinned in a corner by logic, and at that point, he's just paying lip service... not really believing it. This is the same guy that called the landlord a jerk for kicking him out, after not paying rent for 6 months.
[update-10:41pm - Brother showed up at my door about 10pm... I reviewed with him what the situation was... If he's arrested for anything, I lose my money and he's stuck in jail without bond for as long as it takes for his case to come to trial. He seemed frightened and upset from only spending 18 hours in there, so I think that drove the point home. I explained to him about Andy always being a catalyst for his worst times... and he paid lip service. I can tell when he's not taking what I say as anything but a lecture. That's his call, he's an adult, and he knows with full understanding that there's not a thing anyone can do for him if he screws up.]
It's been a crappy week, but it's Saturday, and I look forward to a better week starting tomorrow. I'm not on call, and I think that I'll take a little smiley walk up the beach, and enjoy the weather.
Some good news (hope I don't jinx myself) On-call wasn't too busy at all. That's a nice blessing to count.
Fiddled with Mr. Snail a bit.. made his foot slide. Still not sure what to do with the eye stalks. stationary like that, he looks a little like a Viking ship.
Speed, highly addictive card game. (I may put it in the Toybox later.)
The Fog of War, I really like this site.
Opening ports with the westell modem/router is a real chore. Once I get it right,t I'm writing the procedure up and will post it as a faq on my website... I look forward to seeing how many hits I get on it, and even more forward to hearing form folks that got helped as a result.
After a heavy morning of pets and hugs, he's ready for a little rough and tumbly. 
I've looked at too many bits of hacker-text. 2004 looks like the word "soup" to me.
Work News - Kahuna will be doing opening and trainings in Nevada next week, Newbie and DL are going to St. Augustine. That means it's just me, CS, the bean counters and Rhodey in the office. I think MM is skipping next week... still waiting for clearance to do codeRED.
I helped with her practice training, and discovered that the big kahuna can't say the words "telephony" or "liaison" properly.
It's cool to listen to samples from the Speech Accent Archive.
Well... here's another life experience. I get to deal with a Bail bondsman - Get brother out of jail. $1000 bond for Burglary (He claims some woman asked him to get a battery out of her car, and a cop saw him and blah blah blah... whatever.) If I wasn't on call, I could post bail myself, but I'm not able to get out of the house to go hit cash machines and then swing by the jail. The Bondsman is working out right now how to get the paperwork out to me, so they can have my signature. [update: - Someone is coming out here in ~2 hours with forms and then will hop over to the jail. I'm glad that I'm only a hop, skip and a jump from the courthouse district.]
I've already decided that if this happens a second time, anytime in the future, he will not get bond again. This is his one grace period. If he asks again, he can stay in jail until his case comes to trial. (I suspect that he called me instead of the mom is because she's out of state at Ted's funeral, anyway.)
The History of Bail
Bail is some form of capital which is deposited or pledged to a court in order to convince it to release an accused from a jail facility, on the understanding that the accused will return for trial or forfeit the bail ("skipping bail" is also illegal). Depending upon the court involved and the crime(s) of which one is accused. Bail is not always available it can be legally denied for an offense / charge which the governing legislature has determined to be non-bailable.
Roots of US Bail Laws
Bail laws in the United States grew out of a long history of English statutes and policies. The ties between the institution of bail in the United States is also based on the old English system. In attempting to understand the meaning of the American constitutional bail provisions and how they were intended to supplement a larger statutory bail structure, knowledge of the English system and how it developed until the time of American independence is essential.
Bail Law in England
In medieval England, the sheriffs originally possessed sovereign authority to release or hold suspected criminals. Some sheriffs would exploit the bail for their own gain. The Statute of Westminster (1275) limited the discretion of sheriffs with respect to the bail. Via the statute, bailable and non-bailable offenses were defined, however, the sheriffs retained the authority to decide the amount of bail required.
In the early 17th Century, King Charles I ordered noblemen to issue him loans. Those who refused were imprisoned. Five of the incarcerated filed a habeas corpus petition arguing that they should not be held indefinitely without trial or bail. In the Petition of Right (1628) the Parliament argued that, in violation of the Magna Carta, the King had imprisoned people without just cause.
The Habeas Corpus Act (1677) states, "A Magistrate shall discharge Prisoners from their Imprisonment taking their Recognizance, with one or more Surety or Sureties, in any Sum according to the Magistrate's discretion, unless it shall appear that the Party is committed for such Matter or offenses for which by law the Prisoner is not bailable."
The English Bill of Rights (1689) states that "excessive bail hath been required of persons committed in criminal cases, to elude the benefit of the laws made for the liberty of the subjects. Excessive bail ought not to be required." This was a precursor of the Eighth Amendment to the US Constitution.
Bail Law in the United States
In Colonial America, bail law was based off English law. Some of the colonies simply guaranteed their subjects the protections of British law. In 1776, after the Declaration of Independence, those which had not already done so, enacted their own versions of bail law.
Section 9 of Virginia's 1776 Constitution states "excessive bail ought not to be required..." In 1785, the following was added, "Those shall be let to bail who are apprehended for any crime not punishable in life or limb...But if a crime be punishable by life or limb, or if it be manslaughter and there be good cause to believe the party guilty thereof, he shall not be admitted to bail."
Section 29 of the Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776 states "Excessive bail shall not be exacted for bailable offenses."
The Eighth Amendment in the US Federal Bill of Rights is derived from the Virginia Constitution, "Excessive bail shall not be required...", in regards to which Mr. Livermore commented, "The clause seems to have no meaning to it, I do not think it necessary. What is meant by the term excessive bail...?!"
The Eighth Amendment, to the Constitution, like the English Habeas Corpus Act of 1678, requires that a suspect "be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation" and thus enabling a suspect to demand bail if accused of a bailable offense.
The Judiciary Act of 1789
In 1789, the same year that the Bill of rights were introduced, Congress passed the Judiciary Act. This specified which types of crimes were bailable and set bounds on the discretion of a judge in setting bail. The Act states that all non-capital offenses are bailable and that in capital cases the decision to detain a suspect, prior to trial, was to be left to the judge.
The Judiciary Act states, "Upon all arrests in criminal cases, bail shall be admitted, except where punishment may be by death, in which cases it shall not be admitted but by the supreme or a circuit court, or by a justice of the supreme court, or a judge of a district court, who shall exercise their discretion therein."
The Bail Reform Act of 1966
In 1966, Congress enacted the Bail Reform Act of 1966 which states that a non-capital defendant is to be released, pending trial, on his personal recognizance or on personal bond, unless the judicial officer determines that such incentives will not adequately assure his appearance at trial. In that case, the judge must select an alternative from a list of conditions, such as restrictions on travel. Individuals charged with a capital offense, or who have been convicted and are awaiting sentencing or appeal, are to be released unless the judicial officer has reason to believe that no conditions will reasonably assure that the person will not flee or pose a danger. In non-capital cases, the Act does not permit a judge to consider a suspects danger to the community, only in capital cases or after conviction is the judge authorized to do so.
The 1966 Act was particularly criticized within the District of Columbia, where all crimes formerly fell under Federal bail law. In a number of instances, persons accused of violent crimes committed additional crimes when released on their personal recognizance. These individuals were often released yet again.
The Judicial Council committee recommended that, even in non-capital cases, a person's dangerousness should be be considered in determining conditions for release. The District of Columbia Court Reform and Criminal Procedure Act of 1970 allowed judges to consider dangerousness and risk of flight when setting bail in non-capital cases.
[update-10:41pm - Brother showed up at my door about 10pm... I reviewed with him what the situation was... If he's arrested for anything, I lose my money and he's stuck in jail without bond for as long as it takes for his case to come to trial. He seemed frightened and upset from only spending 18 hours in there, so I think that drove the point home. I explained to him about Andy always being a catalyst for his worst times... and he paid lip service. I can tell when he's not taking what I say as anything but a lecture. That's his call, he's an adult, and he knows with full understanding that there's not a thing anyone can do for him if he screws up.]
It's been a crappy week, but it's Saturday, and I look forward to a better week starting tomorrow. I'm not on call, and I think that I'll take a little smiley walk up the beach, and enjoy the weather.
Some good news (hope I don't jinx myself) On-call wasn't too busy at all. That's a nice blessing to count.
Fiddled with Mr. Snail a bit.. made his foot slide. Still not sure what to do with the eye stalks. stationary like that, he looks a little like a Viking ship.
Speed, highly addictive card game. (I may put it in the Toybox later.)
The Fog of War, I really like this site.
Opening ports with the westell modem/router is a real chore. Once I get it right,t I'm writing the procedure up and will post it as a faq on my website... I look forward to seeing how many hits I get on it, and even more forward to hearing form folks that got helped as a result.
After a heavy morning of pets and hugs, he's ready for a little rough and tumbly.
Things to do in order to get my mortgage worked out with 1005 financing for the coming purchase of a place (rather than renting)... if not, 5% down is pretty standard.
Letters related to phone, power & cable, stating how long my accounts have been open, payment timeliness, and contact numbers for the people concerned and a list of my canceled rent checks for this and my prior place. Most of that'll be dealt with on Monday.
Note to self, look into seller concession, where the seller pays 3% of the price to go to closing the deal. (That's a good $3k-ish, right there!) It looks like a pretty good possibility, depending on the seller.
I've looked at too many bits of hacker-text. 2004 looks like the word "soup" to me.
Work News - Kahuna will be doing opening and trainings in Nevada next week, Newbie and DL are going to St. Augustine. That means it's just me, CS, the bean counters and Rhodey in the office. I think MM is skipping next week... still waiting for clearance to do codeRED.
I helped with her practice training, and discovered that the big kahuna can't say the words "telephony" or "liaison" properly.
It's cool to listen to samples from the Speech Accent Archive.
Well... here's another life experience. I get to deal with a Bail bondsman - Get brother out of jail. $1000 bond for Burglary (He claims some woman asked him to get a battery out of her car, and a cop saw him and blah blah blah... whatever.) If I wasn't on call, I could post bail myself, but I'm not able to get out of the house to go hit cash machines and then swing by the jail. The Bondsman is working out right now how to get the paperwork out to me, so they can have my signature. [update: - Someone is coming out here in ~2 hours with forms and then will hop over to the jail. I'm glad that I'm only a hop, skip and a jump from the courthouse district.]
I've already decided that if this happens a second time, anytime in the future, he will not get bond again. This is his one grace period. If he asks again, he can stay in jail until his case comes to trial. (I suspect that he called me instead of the mom is because she's out of state at Ted's funeral, anyway.)
Bail is some form of capital which is deposited or pledged to a court in order to convince it to release an accused from a jail facility, on the understanding that the accused will return for trial or forfeit the bail ("skipping bail" is also illegal). Depending upon the court involved and the crime(s) of which one is accused. Bail is not always available it can be legally denied for an offense / charge which the governing legislature has determined to be non-bailable.
Roots of US Bail Laws
Bail laws in the United States grew out of a long history of English statutes and policies. The ties between the institution of bail in the United States is also based on the old English system. In attempting to understand the meaning of the American constitutional bail provisions and how they were intended to supplement a larger statutory bail structure, knowledge of the English system and how it developed until the time of American independence is essential.
Bail Law in England
In medieval England, the sheriffs originally possessed sovereign authority to release or hold suspected criminals. Some sheriffs would exploit the bail for their own gain. The Statute of Westminster (1275) limited the discretion of sheriffs with respect to the bail. Via the statute, bailable and non-bailable offenses were defined, however, the sheriffs retained the authority to decide the amount of bail required.
In the early 17th Century, King Charles I ordered noblemen to issue him loans. Those who refused were imprisoned. Five of the incarcerated filed a habeas corpus petition arguing that they should not be held indefinitely without trial or bail. In the Petition of Right (1628) the Parliament argued that, in violation of the Magna Carta, the King had imprisoned people without just cause.
The Habeas Corpus Act (1677) states, "A Magistrate shall discharge Prisoners from their Imprisonment taking their Recognizance, with one or more Surety or Sureties, in any Sum according to the Magistrate's discretion, unless it shall appear that the Party is committed for such Matter or offenses for which by law the Prisoner is not bailable."
The English Bill of Rights (1689) states that "excessive bail hath been required of persons committed in criminal cases, to elude the benefit of the laws made for the liberty of the subjects. Excessive bail ought not to be required." This was a precursor of the Eighth Amendment to the US Constitution.
Bail Law in the United States
In Colonial America, bail law was based off English law. Some of the colonies simply guaranteed their subjects the protections of British law. In 1776, after the Declaration of Independence, those which had not already done so, enacted their own versions of bail law.
Section 9 of Virginia's 1776 Constitution states "excessive bail ought not to be required..." In 1785, the following was added, "Those shall be let to bail who are apprehended for any crime not punishable in life or limb...But if a crime be punishable by life or limb, or if it be manslaughter and there be good cause to believe the party guilty thereof, he shall not be admitted to bail."
Section 29 of the Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776 states "Excessive bail shall not be exacted for bailable offenses."
The Eighth Amendment in the US Federal Bill of Rights is derived from the Virginia Constitution, "Excessive bail shall not be required...", in regards to which Mr. Livermore commented, "The clause seems to have no meaning to it, I do not think it necessary. What is meant by the term excessive bail...?!"
The Eighth Amendment, to the Constitution, like the English Habeas Corpus Act of 1678, requires that a suspect "be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation" and thus enabling a suspect to demand bail if accused of a bailable offense.
The Judiciary Act of 1789
In 1789, the same year that the Bill of rights were introduced, Congress passed the Judiciary Act. This specified which types of crimes were bailable and set bounds on the discretion of a judge in setting bail. The Act states that all non-capital offenses are bailable and that in capital cases the decision to detain a suspect, prior to trial, was to be left to the judge.
The Judiciary Act states, "Upon all arrests in criminal cases, bail shall be admitted, except where punishment may be by death, in which cases it shall not be admitted but by the supreme or a circuit court, or by a justice of the supreme court, or a judge of a district court, who shall exercise their discretion therein."
The Bail Reform Act of 1966
In 1966, Congress enacted the Bail Reform Act of 1966 which states that a non-capital defendant is to be released, pending trial, on his personal recognizance or on personal bond, unless the judicial officer determines that such incentives will not adequately assure his appearance at trial. In that case, the judge must select an alternative from a list of conditions, such as restrictions on travel. Individuals charged with a capital offense, or who have been convicted and are awaiting sentencing or appeal, are to be released unless the judicial officer has reason to believe that no conditions will reasonably assure that the person will not flee or pose a danger. In non-capital cases, the Act does not permit a judge to consider a suspects danger to the community, only in capital cases or after conviction is the judge authorized to do so.
The 1966 Act was particularly criticized within the District of Columbia, where all crimes formerly fell under Federal bail law. In a number of instances, persons accused of violent crimes committed additional crimes when released on their personal recognizance. These individuals were often released yet again.
The Judicial Council committee recommended that, even in non-capital cases, a person's dangerousness should be be considered in determining conditions for release. The District of Columbia Court Reform and Criminal Procedure Act of 1970 allowed judges to consider dangerousness and risk of flight when setting bail in non-capital cases.
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